Lyme with bartonella


Dear Stephen,
I was diagnosed with the Fry Labs bartonella bug in March of 2010 and was put on 4 different antibiotics and bolouke for 4 months. I improved a lot but never fully recovered. I changed my LLMD for other reasons and have been up and down with symptoms ever since. My current LLMD clinically diagnosed me with lyme and I have been on minocycline and klonopin for almost a year. I was still having a lot of symptoms and looking for some answers when I found out about your protocol. I’m currently taking your protocol ( 6 weeks now up to 3×3 of each), my doctor’s antibiotics and bolouke. I feel like I’m starting over again, having a lot of my early symptoms returning (too many to list). Do you have any suggestions? Thanks for all your help and hard work with this disease.


Stephen’s response:
If you have bartonella, then you will have to treat it as well as the lyme. The best easy protocol for bartonella is:

Sida acuta tincture (from woodlandessence.com or julie@gaianstudies.org) ¼ tsp 3x day for 30 days
Hawthorn tincture, same
Japanese knotweed, (tincture, same dose as above, from woodlandessence.com or julie@gaianstudies.org, or capsules from greendragonbotanicals.com 2 capsules 3x daily)
ECGC 400mg +- daily
Houttuyina (Yu Xing Cao – 1st Chinese Herbs, powder) 1 tbl daily
L-arginine 5000 mg daily in divided doses
Milk thistle seed, standardized, 1200 mg daily

All for 30 days.

PLEASE NOTE: If you have active herpes, chicken pox, or shingles DO NOT USE L-arginine.

In general, the most important thing is to decrease the inflammation dynamics that are occurring in the lyme (knotweed), increase immune strength (cat’s claw, rhodiola tincture – ¼ tsp 3x daily, eleuthero tincture, same), and work on the bartonella. Plus addressing specific symptoms.

Stephen
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posted on January 3, 2012 in bartonella, boneset, Co-Infections, Herbs, japanese knotweed, miscellaneous
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Comments

  • Bea Seibert

    January 13, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    Have been waiting since mid October, but Woodand Essence should finally have the sida acuta in stock in another week or two weeks at the most.

  • Bea Seibert

    January 13, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    Stephen,

    I did some research on arginine and found a couple of PubMed articles on using that amino acid for babesia and ehrlichia as well as for bartonella.

    I switched hubby from 1000 mg x 3 of niacin to the same dose of arginine and he feels it is much more helpful for babesia head swelling/pressure headaches. I am stopping the butterbur, vinpocetine and gingko capsules and the prickly ash tincture as they seem to have lost their effectivenes..

    Will try increasing the dose of arginine to your suggested dose.

    Thanks so much for continuing to update your protocols.

  • Lynn

    January 16, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Bea and Stephen
    Going on 7 year struggle with Lyme Bartonella and Babesia.. been through mulitple protocols, doctors, LLMDs, naturophaths, glutithione and detox ivs, Rife etc… I am finding the same issues noted just never leaving me is agitation for no good reason and rage that just can come up out of nowhere, massive head and sinus pressure, travelling pains, neck and back pain, fatigue, bouts of ADD-like symptoms that wax and wane, crushing fatigue and just wanting to hide out socially when like this so I dont hurt anyone plus its just draining trying to try and function normally…..these ups and downs impacts my family and kids greatly… I just cannot be who I want to be and just cant seem to get over this. I dont know if I have beaten any of the 3 infections over the years and still dont know which one I am battling .. I know the Byron White A-BAB formula helps but I tried the A-BART formula and just 2 drops were unbearable. I stopped seeing doctors in Sept because just tired of the fight and constant research and trial and error…. but I am getting worse and need to get on a protocal again.. I have never tried the Buhner protocol… but not sure if should focus only on the above noted Bartonella protocal stephe recommended. any advice or thoughts to get my fighting spirt back are appreciated! Note, I was also on a year and a 1/2 regjime of rifampin/ and boluke some cortisol control and other support stuff when Frye and PCR finally uncovered the Bartonella and babesia that never showed up with my original positive Lyme diagnosis..

    • Kimberley

      April 13, 2013 at 7:57 am

      Hi Lynn,
      I am sorry to hear that you are still struggling with this terrible disease; I have Lyme and Bartonella since 2008, I was on buhners to start then I decided to go with traditional chinese medicine. I was on the cowden program for two years I have been on Zhang’s protocol for about a year now and my Lyme is pretty much eradicated, but I have learned that the coinfections are harder to kill than the Lyme itself, so I am still battling some bartonella, but will continue with HH2 and possibly rifing which I have not yet done, to kill it off. I found this article which you may want to read;http://www.wellsphere.com/lyme-disease-article/i-met-with-dr-zhang-last-week-an/670773 I have found in my experience that TCM was the way to go, also if you are anywhere near Two Frogs Healing Centre in Maryland make an appointment with Dr.Greg Lee he speciializes in hard to beat Lyme cases, and is a master of TCM. I am in Alberta, Canada and he helped me greatly. I hope I was able to help you some, I am a mother of three myself and my prayers go out to you and your family. Don’t give up the fight.
      Kimberley

      • Libby

        July 18, 2013 at 11:58 am

        My son has been battling lyme and co-infections for 10the years. Has started to have heart and breathing issues due to bartonella. Anxiety is heightened as well. Did you experience this? If so what did you do for treatment? I am concerned about endocarditis. I am so afraid we are going to lose him.

        Kibbutz

        • Libby

          July 18, 2013 at 11:59 am

          I signed Libby-sorry don’t know where kibutz came from.

      • Andrew

        December 19, 2013 at 6:30 pm

        Hi Kimberley. I live in Alberta Canada also and have just recently caught the Lyme. Is there anyway I can get in touch with you? You seem to have come a long way.
        Thanks,
        Andrew

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