Dear Stephen,
I would be very interested in hearing your take on Young Living Essential Oils (YLEO) and their use for lyme. Some with lyme have used them with positive results (although myself not extensively, but I do know the raindrop detox massage with specific sequence of oils works very well!), others argue that YLEO is a pyramid scheme and that Gary Young is a quack. A friend of mine who’s a YLEO practitioner and massage therapist avows that a client of hers went on a customized YLEO protocol for lyme and was able to clear herself of lyme disease. For instance, there is an essential oil combination that one can take internally that apparently acts like an antibiotic: oregano, mountain savory, and lemon. This, in combination with other internally taken YLEO products, plus weekly raindrop massage sessions apparently did the trick. I haven’t invested a lot in this, as I’m committed to taking the Buhner and Zhang herbal protocols, and I’m also taking two antibiotics – but would very much appreciate your candid and reliable judgment on this.
I would be very interested in hearing your take on Young Living Essential Oils (YLEO) and their use for lyme. Some with lyme have used them with positive results (although myself not extensively, but I do know the raindrop detox massage with specific sequence of oils works very well!), others argue that YLEO is a pyramid scheme and that Gary Young is a quack. A friend of mine who’s a YLEO practitioner and massage therapist avows that a client of hers went on a customized YLEO protocol for lyme and was able to clear herself of lyme disease. For instance, there is an essential oil combination that one can take internally that apparently acts like an antibiotic: oregano, mountain savory, and lemon. This, in combination with other internally taken YLEO products, plus weekly raindrop massage sessions apparently did the trick. I haven’t invested a lot in this, as I’m committed to taking the Buhner and Zhang herbal protocols, and I’m also taking two antibiotics – but would very much appreciate your candid and reliable judgment on this.
Stephen’s response:
There are many things that work for lyme, there is NO “one way fits all” approach. In general, if you get better, it works for you, if not, it didn’t. The main thing that tends to raise my BS detector is if the protocol is ONLY available through one person and that person makes a lot of money off it. It violates my personal ethics, nevertheless, there are many, many things that do help people with lyme.
There are many things that work for lyme, there is NO “one way fits all” approach. In general, if you get better, it works for you, if not, it didn’t. The main thing that tends to raise my BS detector is if the protocol is ONLY available through one person and that person makes a lot of money off it. It violates my personal ethics, nevertheless, there are many, many things that do help people with lyme.
Stephen
You’re a damn good human being Stephen, always so honest…..
YL Oils in my experience only aggitated and “woke up” the bugs.
Once sending me to the hospital. Awful experience.
I believe the oils penetrate TOO DEEP into the CNS (if that makes any sense) and can awaken a deep rooted infection.
Sometimes it’s better to let sleeping dogs lie.
Could that have been caused by a massive dump of dead lyme into the bloodstream? I’ve heard you want to take it slow so it doesn’t overwhelm your body’s ability to flush them.
No, what happened was very obvious and I’ve been dealing with it ever since (2 years later).
I wouldn’t touch essential oils with a 10 foot pole. Definitely not ingesting them. I can see rubbing on feet, etc.
It’s too bad that was your experience and one could say maybe getting what’s laying dormant that deep out on your own terms is better than leaving it there to raise it’s ugly head when it chooses. But it obviously wasn’t the right thing for you and you were right to follow your instincts about your path. That doesn’t mean however that Essential Oils are wrong for everyone. I too had terrible Herxing when first ingesting Oregano Essential Oil (high quality “pharmaceutical” grade pure) but not any worse than what I experienced from die off while on IV antibiotics and I was able to lessen the dose and control the reaction. So slowed down the effect much the way the Christi was suggesting. I would highly recommend people try Essential Oil protocols (there are several) to see if it helps them, as long as you are dealing with the best quality oils from a reputable company (no matter what a distributor tells you there is more than one reputable company supplying high quality oils) I actually choose to use a couple of companies for various reasons.
*Herxing meant it was working to me.
Something to be aware of. Lyme is a possession, the most powerful kind. On that note, it’s good to do our best to be aware when the is doing our thinking, talking and acting of us. There are physiological explanations for this.
Lyme wants to live and will do everything it can in it’s super intelligent power to ensure it does to the best best of its ability.
That is a brilliant way of describing it Patrick, it clearly wants to survive and could influence decisions one makes. When I was dealing with Candida, I would have dreams about eating candy, it clearly was effecting my brain!!!
Thank you for this insight Patrick. This is so true, as lyme makes it hard to focus. I have written down what you have said, so that I can read it when I feel I need strength, to remind myself I am not actually weak. It is the lyme talking me down, because I’m starting to get my body back. Thank you again!
I have used YLEO’s oils before I did a major detox and after. After made the oils work much better. They may or may not work in the “before” situation. If you’re interested, google The Natural Healing Paradigm. Then follow it. Get all the disease causing stuff out of your body, then the rest is very easy to deal with. That could be microbial stuff.
Brian, April 3, 2013 I felt that way in the beginning, but keep in mind….those lying dogs grow in numbers even while sleeping….when they decide to come out to play it is even worst than a healing crisis.
Thats because you can go at it too aggressively! Pure grade essential oils are very powerful medicines. Absolutely no one should hammer at it so hard! Slow and low is the best way to start. All auto-immune and chronic illnesses can have Herkimer effect when treatments commence!
And FYI- within the Young Living community of sales people, we absolutely do not horde treatments! The whole point of what we do is to share toxin free and natural options with EVERYONE! Gary Young comes from Big Sur, the OG of natural healers. Anyone who thinks he is a quack only uses media as their judge and doesn’t understand what the entire natural healing community puts up with as far as being taken seriously. Its a huge issue for those of us needing serious help with chronic health issues that doctors just want to throw pharmaceuticals at!
I use YL specifically if I have a sore throat or chest heaviness. I had started occasionally putting a drop or two into my tea and one day I couldn’t believe how fast my sore throat went away and how long the effect lasted. I stumbled on this. I still like using 1 drop a day here and there and I must confess it does seem to make me feel better but as far as killing bugs, not sure. It does seem really expensive for such a small bottle.
EC, can you please tell me what oil you use for the sore throat? I have been getting lots of colds and post nasal drip that makes me cough all night. Any tips on EO would be greatly appreciated!
Hi, Martha- If I have a sore throat I take a tsp of coconut oil in my hand, add 1-2 drops of Thieves EO from Young Living and rub the outside of my throat OR spray once with Thieves Spray. I also put a pre-mixed rub of coconut oil and Thieves on my feet on a regular basis to increase my immunity. I love Young Living!
Since EC is using YL oils I would bet they are talking about Thieves. It is fantastic for fighting colds and flu (along with other things) it has Clove in it which is very prominent and has other “hot” oils as well but I love clove and just let a drop or two fall under my tongue directly when I feel something coming on. I would suggest putting drops in water or swallowing with CO first to get used to it and work up to the direct under the tongue though. The other methods mentioned along with putting in gel caps are good too. Other companies make a version of this blend as well.
Martha, YL has a blend called Thieves that saves my family and friends from the crud and its symptoms. Its a preventative as well as a cure for some of the symptoms once you get the crud, like sore throat, etc. If you Google the ingredients you can mimic the blend or just buy it. I only trust 3 brands of oils after having them tested myself for purity.
People refer to the Young Living as the only source to go to for essential oils, but there are many reputable suppliers that now carry therapeutic grade oils and are much less expensive. I won’t work with young living because I do not like their company practices, but let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Essential oils are very powerful and if one is attracted to them, they should be pursued. All avenues that support the health are worthy of looking into.
I source oils for my products from many places. One company isn’t going to have the best of everything. I make my products to make it easy and affordable for people to use EOs. http://Www.almanaturals.net
Forgot to mention that some good companies for essential oils are:
Mountainroseherbs
edenbotanicals
heritageessentialoils
anandaapothecary
Yes. Valuable comment. We must all discern for ourselves what works.
For me, if it costs too much to experiment, or if I have to buy in to something that is as larger plan (not retailed) then I find it ethically and financially difficult to participate. peace and blessing thoughts
Ayla, I just placed an order with young living oils that was alot of money, for the future, i would to know a very good EO that does the job and costs less~ I fear my children were born with lyme and my 3 yr old already has body aches (found out from a zyto,and she always would complain of a pain here or there) SO, EO are a good way to help that and stay on top of anything that is trying to wreck havoc on their little bodies….
and any opinion anyone has as to what to give little ones with possible lyme would be great~ i try GSE and colloidal silver at times too.. although i believe CS gives my young ones a herx reaction
I used to use any and all oils including DoTerra and Young Living. I need to know I’m not getting the lower grade oils sold to after market companies and so far YL is the only one you can actually visit the farms and observe/participate in the process.
I just gave my 30 year old son his first raindrop treatment.
The kit cost $134 as i am a YLEO distributor. I have many friends who are suffering from lyme disease. We are all chipping in for the treatments. My son said his well being numbers went from 0-7. He had been in bed all morning. After the treatment, he hung out in the yard with his brother & helped him to stack wood. The treatments are recommended for lyme every week. I think he will be wanting another one.
For the sake of us newbies, could those of you posting please not use so many abbreviations? What is CS?
I’m pretty sure they mean colloidal silver, mentioned earlier in the comment.
Thank you
Hello,
Who are the YLEO Practitioners that know this therapy? I would very much like to try this approach and am studying EOs for multiple infections.
Thank you.
Sharon
My daughter was recently diagnosed with Lyme, so we are treating her with the oils. We have started nice and slow as to not cause the detox to happen to fast. So far so good, her symptoms are getting better. If you would like to purchase the oils you can go to http://www.EssentialOilsEnhanceHealth.com
You can research Rainbow Therapy in your area as there are some massage therapist that perform the treatment. Although if you order the Rainbow Therapy kit from Young Living it comes with an instructional so you could have a friend/family member perform the treatment. It is simple and easy to understand. I have a background in herbal medicine and was diagnosed with lyme–many of the things recommended by mouth are actually the oils that you will apply directly to the skin–ie oregano, thyme, etc.
For the record, it is Raindrop therapy, not Rainbow. I am certified in Raindrop Technique having trained with Gary Young, creator of Young Living Essential Oils http://www.ylwebsite.com/texas
I would really like a set of Young Living Essential Oil and Products to share with a group suffering from Lyme Disease symptoms caused by Moregellon’s
Thanks.
D. Please use essential oils with the utmost care; they are serious medicine. I am very much against Rainbow Therapy as the body is subjected to too many oils at the same time, thus making the liver work even harder to detoxify. An ess. oil blend should NEVER have more than 5-6 individual oils in it, unless working with a certified aromatherapist.. The American College of Health Sciences has a wonderful program designed for those that work with Young Living and doTerra essential oils http://www.achs.edu
The raindrop technique does not blend all of the oils used. They are applied individually. So the benefits are tremendous as a result. Have witnessed dramatic improvement/healing from use of the raindrop technique!
You can find a list of practitioners doing it in your area on the Young Living site I believe or maybe the YL blog but it does exist. Also as someone else mentioned if you get the kit it has a DVD and a book available with directions. There are also YouTube video tutorials you could watch before deciding to order. But as I was saying you can order the oils and most massage therapists could probably perform it using one of those methods for learning Raindrop Therapy.
Check in your area for a C.A.R.E. practitioner. They are trained in Raindrop Technique
Raindrop is amazing. On YouTube
Young Living essential oils (started a month ago) have both made me herx beyond belief AND made me feel incredibly better with many symptoms. My problem is body is not detoxing fast/well enough. So I’ve learned to slow down and finding ways to open those detox pathways for better clearing. I’ll get back to this thread in 1-2 months from now with updates. I’m going to try treating both my Hashimoto and my chronic Lyme (30+ years? but dx 6 mos ago). Thanks for this posting. It is helpful to me.
Sue, I would love to be updated with your progress, as I know a few who are dealing with these issues as well…you may email me @ serenityescentials@gmail.com. Thank you and be well
Sue,
What is your protocol of Young Living essential oils?
Coffee enemas have been very helpful for me with herxing.
Hope things are still going well for you. I just wanted to encourage you to continue tweaking the protocol. I found that it was an ongoing ever changing process. As long as you are in touch with your body and listen to it you will be good. It will tell you when something is or isn’t working, don’t hesitate to increase or decrease the dose, add an new or reintroduce an oil or something else entirely. It’s a living treatment for a living disease/organism in a living body and things will work wonders, not work as well and work again as all of those things change. So many factors in the way a body and everything in it reacts and works at any given time. Hang in, it isn’t easy but it sure is interesting. Stay positive!
Sue , Can you say more about opening those detoxification pathways? And how did you end up doing overall on the oils?
What oils are you using. I just got the starters kit.
Raindrop Kit. Until you get that, try Thieves on the spine duly 3-6 drops.
I had a very severe case of lyme/mycoplasma +. After trying almost every route of healing for it, and after being in bed for almost 3 years, I was having convulsions, a-fib, panic attacks, etc that caused me to feel I was dying.I was introduced to EO by a dear friend and I had such an immediate and effective response to them that I began to look more deeply into how they can be used. I used them internally as well as externally. Within two months my brain fog, convulsions, panic and heart issues were no longer plaguing me. I started on the microbial issues next as well as having the strength to address my gut and foundational health. My personal experience is that EO gave my life back and they have proven gentle, yet powerful in my personal healing. I wanted to share this as I felt they were not getting a fair assessment. I started with YL oils but my results were with doTERRA.
Kristin,
Can you share your doTERRA protocol? I use them and love them! Im just now starting a protocol. Feel confused about where to start, since there are several different protocols posted on the Web. I was planning to do On Guard, Oregano, Frankincense, & Thyme in capsule once per day. Was going to do this for 2 wks, take a 2 wk break, and then do another round for 2 wks. I was thinking of adding drops of cinnamon, clove, and cassia to my water. 2 drops of Melissa under my tongue. Not sure what oils to apply externally and where on my body. Im thinking of taking Cilantro as well, to assist with heavy metal detox.
Thanks!!
In my experience with Lyme it is important you don’t go off and on whatever you are using. So the 2wks on 2wks off 2wks back on isn’t the way I would recommend doing it. If you want to alter the dose add subtract or change the oils, go for it, in fact I would encourage you to do that as your body needs. But don’t go off everything, think of the spirochaetes (and other forms) as being like the super infections that have become resistant to antibiotics. Taking a break gives them time to become resistant to whatever was killing them and learn resistance or how to better hide. You can let up a bit by lessening the dose but don’t stop dosing them once you start. Hope that makes some sense. The buggers like to fight back hard.
Kristen- I, too, would love to hear your protocol. I am researching for a Post-Katrina induced case of mycoplasma.
I would love to know more details. I have lyme and mycoplasma as well and my symtoms are very similar to yours.
Kristin- I would love to know what doTerrra oils you used that worked. I too have Lyme, and two different Mycoplasma strains along with Bartonella amd like many of us, don’t have the financial situation to experiment with what could work and what might not. Please message me on FB. My Facebook name is Leigh Purciel Conlee. I’m desperate to find some relief from the psychological symptoms that come with these
Kristen – can I ask which essential oils you used? I’m on antibiotics but am very interested in doing an oil in conjunction with them or possibly oils exclusively at some point down the road. Thanks so much! Glad you’re well. It’s a miserable disease. : (
I used Oregano Oil mixed with sesame, olive or actually an Omega 3,6,9 mix in capsules. But there are a few protocols out there that add Thyme, Lemon and some others to that. They all have Oregano though I think and if not should. Studies have been done with Lyme and it’s co-infections and Oregano essential oil that are very encouraging. Basically none of these things survive in Oregano.
Just my overall 2cents. I agree with Christy when it comes to Essential Oils there isn’t just one company. There are reasons for using different companies for different oils at different times. The most important thing being that you are using high quality oils which while available isn’t always easy to know you have found. Do your due diligence and make sure you are dealing with reputable people and the quality info is available to you. I think everyone means well and believes what they say but no company is the only company selling good oils. I was introduced to using oils as “pharmaceuticals” specifically for my Lyme through a Young Living distributor (6-7 years ago) and became a distributor myself to buy at the discount since I knew I would be ingesting good amounts for a while. The person that introduced me is trained and licensed in the healthcare field and I trusted her belief in the quality and still do. The oils worked so well for me in various ways I was soon using them for much more than killing lyme organisms. I have found a couple other companies I like now also and use mainly, Spark Naturals and Native Nutritionals/Rocky Mountain Oils as well. So I use all three now for various reasons but mostly YL and SN depending on the oil. I haven’t made it a business and while I am always happy to order oils for people at my wholesale price or discounted price if they want my goal is to spread the word about using high quality oils in place of so many things and making them accessible not what company they come from or who you get them from. Based on my ability to create Herxing I know Oregano EO creates as much die-off as any IV antibiotic or combo I have been on (18 months worth). Essential oils are definitely worth adding to any plan for fighting Lyme and the many symptoms that come with it, I would highly recommend looking into them. I am happy to help any way I can, just ask. But as with your health and course of treatment do your research, listen to your body and then go with your instinct. No one knows your body, how it feels and what’s best for it better than you do. Your willingness to explore various treatments and ask questions, the very fact you are reading this means you are doing the right things and proactively taking responsibility for your health with an open mind. You will be successful just stay strong and positive (easier said than done sometimes).
Gwen, I too would like to know your protocol or how you developed it. I’ve been researching but the information is so confusing so I’d love to hear from someone who’s figured out a formula that’s worked for me to start with. If you have the time or inclination to respond please do. Thetreesalso @ netscape (dot) net. Thanks!
Thank you so much for your insight, everyone! I was Dx over a month ago with Lyme, blood tests verified, everyone says I won the lottery with a pos blood test. While I’m thankful it didn’t go un diagnosed, this is not my kind of lottery winning. I have been on doxy for a month, and I’m done with it. I feel, listening to my body, like it prob cleared some of the stuff in my blood system, but it also feel like it has nested in my tissues. Herxing has been a real reality for me but I haven’t herxed with the antibiotics in over a week and I’m done with it. I do get so 80 yr old woman after just small to moderate exertions of my muscles. I am 35 and we run a small farm and I homeschool my 3 boys. Ain’t nobody got time for this. My joints no longer ache, get stiff as much except my feet if I’ve been on them all day long. I am trying to find an LLMD here in SC, but in the meantime, I started taking today, Cats Claw, grapefruit seed extract, aloe, bee pollen, and colloidal silver. I also want to add an essential oils protocol. Seems like with Lyme, you just have to experiment and there are so many freakin bunny trails. It’s frustrating beyond belief. Have had 3 great days and today I can hardly walk. If anyone can provide true tips and encouraged that this can be manageable, I would love to hear from you. My email is nictribandfam@yahoo.com. Thanks. It’s a lonely road out here in Lymesville.
Hi Gwyn, jyst got my yl start up kit. Which oils would you recommend starting with? I’ve had undiagnosed Lyme for snout 18 years. We diagnosed with lupus at the time. Thanks!
Help! My doctor just given up on me after 4 years of oral antibiotics and a ton of supplements I am not making progress. My daughter has gotten into Young Living EO and I am exploring Mountain Rose but could someone please help me with directions or protocol for the overwhelming fatigue and some pain that continues? I have tried so many things but don’t know the exact “recipe” to use. It also sounds like I should make this a part of my life if it works and not pulse?
Like how many drops of each specific oil with which carrier and how many times a day?
Thanks so much for your help!!!!!
I have recently started an EO (i’m using young living) protocol for lyme. it’s been about 3 weeks – and i definitely notice more of a herx reaction than i did with CS (collodial silver). this is my protocol: 8 drops thieves, 2-3 tea tree oil (this is supposed to help break up the biofilms from what i have read), 2 thyme, 4-5 oregano oil and 2 sacred frankincense (although i just ran out of sacred so i’m using regular right now until i get more – i’m not sure if it is as effective or not). i do this once a day, but i have recently read that you should pulse because oregano is hard on the liver. i have read 3 days a week and then after a few months take a 2 week or longer break. I would be interested to know if anyone knows for sure if this is not a good idea – as i know someone suggested it gives the bacteria a chance to build a resistance. I also plan to start enzymes to help break up the biofilm.
A question for Gwen, and anyone else with insight. I am currently researching essential oils for lyme. I have had lyme for 9+ years and have been through most every “traditional” medical option. I am currently using rife therapy but want to augment my treatment. Please share specifics with me about your successes with treating lyme via essential oils. My husband and I attended a Dōterra class yesterday and are very interested.
Thank you.
Rachel
I’ve been reading everyone’s comments as I too have chronic Lyme disease. I am willing to try anything. I am currently looking into YLEO. I have made purchases from Mountain Rose Herbs and was pleased. Any information that is posted is very helpful. Thanks!
My question is for Diana or anyone else who can chime in… the protocol that you listed with the exact drops (thank you thank you thank you!!) did you apply this externally or were you taking these together internally? I’d REALLY like to try EO treatment with my husband who has been on antibiotics for about 5 years and only saw positive results at the start of that treatment. I use YLEO’s and have only really used lavender, peppermint and thieves on myself. I tried some oregano on him once or twice, but I don’t think much change was seen since it wasn’t a “regimen’ just an isolated massage!
Thanks everyone for the great discussion! I’ve learned a lot!!
wishing everyone well — lyme is terrible and effects those of us not infected as well.
Susan.
Hi Lisa,
I just read your plight with chronic Lyme. I have had it and have a life worth living after many years of looking for life changing results. If you are still looking for something maybe I could help.
Hi Judy, would you be wiling to share your healing experience with me?
There is now a Facebook group for people with Lyme using Young Living oils. It’s called Lyme & Essential oils, and anyone using YL for their Lyme or who are interested in trying it are welcome to join. Or find me on FB and I can add you. Leanne Carnell Carter is my FB name.
There are good answers to all the problems people are having, and I’m sorry nobody was able to address your herxes. Let me know how we can help!
Ms. Leanne,
I was raised in Malaysia and became U.S. Citizen since 1993. I loved to run in the wood by not knowing how danger I am while I was running in the wood. 2014 having a severe pain in my stomach and did not know what cause the pain. 2015 my psychiatrist doctor had realized that I have Lyme disease. 2015 September started with cowden protocol for nine months (not working).Antibiotics for nine months (not working).Stephen and Zhang protocols (not working). Desperate for help. Want to know how EO’s oil work and where to buy?
Thank you so much,
Chuah
Chuah, I’ve been doing a ton of research about Lyme and essential oils. I use Young Living and firmly believe that not all essential oils are created equally. I would love to share the information that I have and would be happy to direct you as you start using YL essential oils.
I use YL also but have never seen anything referring to using EO for Lymes…..interested in that…
Chris,
By the way, will you be able to reach? Thanks.
Would appreciate sharing your info. Have had Lyme for 15 years. Want to try essential oils
Please don’t give up too soon on any herbs. Our misery can have the effect of making us impatient for relief. A clam state of mind is needed for progress, too.
I am not likely to see any reply here, so come find me on FB please.
If anyone wishes to research Young Living Essential Oils (YLEO)
and would like to try them but aren’t sure where or how to get started, please visit the site. I am a distributor and you can use my # 2028679 to order your oils. Thank you, and I hope these help you! _Crystal Sutherland Lemon Dropper.
Hello. 🙂 so much good info and advice. May I add to it that taking a good quality vitamin c product helps amazingly with herxheimer die off. I don’t notice die off when I take it. It’s a great way to get Rudd of tbe toxins.. I never do a cleanse/ treatment protocol without it. I recommend life extension foundation ( website lef.org) buffered powdered vitamin c. It is the highest quality product I have found. Thank you fot the oil advice. I was treated for Lyme with doxycyclene (for 30 days) in 2001 within 2 weeks of being bit. Then later had ringing in my ears off and on afterward…didnt know this was a symptom that I might still have it but felt fine. Started having worse health problems about a year later. Extreme stress 3 years ago may be the cause of my recent crash. Extreme fatigue. Pain all over my body. So I went gluten free. Has helped enormously! On a huge vitamin protocol.Thanks again the oil combo advice. It may be tbe missing piece I have been looking for. Life is harder when you are tired all the time and lack motivation. I always had so much energy. Now I feel like someone has put weights on my ankles. Good luck to all! I would be happy to share my vitamin protocol I use that helps strengthen adrenals and thyroid.
I just want to rid my body of these invaders once and for all.
I would love to know what vitamins you use to support treatment. I’ve been diagnosed as sub clinical hypothyroid and my cortisol numbers are all over the board, with high level of epinephrine on a neurotransmitter test- so I know I need more support in those two areas.
Burning and Pain Symptoms. I read that Lymes Disease, Shingles, and Morgellons are frequently misdiagnosed. Anyway, has anyone ever had extreme burning and pain (both sharp and dull) anywhere in the body, back for instance, not necessarily where the outbreak was, after contracting the disease? With compromised kidney and lung function considerations should be made for gentle detox. Is there any oils or application that can help the extreme pain and burning without creating a rapid detox? Maybe more than one oil. It seems there still some of the infection or whatever in the body. Would Thieves oil help with origination of disease and maybe another oil say for soothing? Anyone tried colloidal silver? Help!
So sorry to hear that you have Lyme.We have been dealing with it for almost 7 years with many symptoms, but really relate to your “extreme fatigue.” I would like to hear your vitamin protocol Beth! Thanks.
I’m interested in trying EO topically. Would be concerend about ingnesting them.
And they are supposed to have effect from skin.
I have lyme for way to long. I don’t tolerate treamtents well and have lost of anxiety fatigue, pain. Some really like the very arduous MMS protocol for lyme, even cancer along with essiac tea organic blend from Mtn Rose Herbs. And magnesium oil on skin. Magnesium ingested stimulates spirochete growth.
Hi Beth,
Hello everyone,
We have also just gone gluten free and it is seeming to help. I have not yet read Mr. Buhners book, but am ordering it after I write this comment. I just would really love to hear the vitamin protocol, Beth, and anyone elses!
Right now, we are doing a gentle introduction of therapeutic grade essential oils (will begin the ‘Lyme Bomb’ soon) such as Oregano, Thieves, Frankincense and others, along with drastic changes in diet (gluten/sugar/yeast free, etc) and I’m researching daily on what supplements and vitamins to take. My family has been suffering for many years. I grew up in the woods all day, every day, and nobody warned me to look out for tick bites. After doctors were unsuccessful in diagnosing me (MS, lupus, etc. were possibilities) the extreme pain I experience, which has changed me in big ways, has made me seek out an alternative. Somethin’s got to give. After my husband was recently diagnosed with Lyme (pos blood test) I have come to the conclusion that I may never be diagnosed, so instead I am changing my focus to be that of revitalizing my immune system and concentrating on greater health. Whatever is wrong with me will hopefully work itself out as I accomplish this means to an end. This may not be the best route to take, but it is the only one available to me. If anyone has anything they would like to share, please, get in touch with me at georgeandcassie@gmail.com and I’ll appreciate that so very much. I need all the support I can get!! ThNk you!!!!
Note: I cannot edit my posts above. Due to changes in FDA regulations, we can no longer suggest that you can use YL oils to help with Lyme or any symptoms thereof. To the FDA folks who are reading this, I do not claim that oils can in any way help with Lyme. I am not a doctor. I do not give medical advice. The above group I mentioned has been discontinued. I would remove the above posts if I could.
I have used their oils and my personal opinion is that it is a BS company just like Stephen suggests..
Yeah tremendous hype in my opinion. Not that they are bad oils but just grossly over priced. Edens garden and plant therapy are just as good. Even now brand is pretty good. It is sure I believe but maybe not quite as potent in some cases.
Wow. I sure hope everyone is healing…i sure love this site and Your generosity. Our wonderful twin sons have struggled with this as their massive growth spurts hit. Have experience at one of our main hospitals in the country- PT helped a lot but we were doing chinese herbs at same time. then colloidal silver too, a local children’s hospital, a local lyme doctor who’s of course out of network and wanted to do abx by injections for 16 weeks ( we didnt think their systems could handle it) We have made outstanding progress with PT, chinese herbs, and lately a Licensed chiropractor but have relapses esp with bad diet. I highly recommend a doc who can guide you on what to eat- you have to ignore your tastebuds for awhile- and support your poor organs but kill the damn parasites. Do not feed them with a bad diet- take it from us! Leaky gut and yeast go with this damn disease. Energy healing also highly recommended. Learn to get in touch with your own healing powers or intuition. I am learning but its been hell for us all in the process. Those who are caretakers, be sure you don’t give up your life and soul- you have to take excellent care of yourselves! Peace out.
Has anyone heard of using tulsi – aka ‘holy basil’ in treatment of lyme?
I just need to chime in with what I have experienced. I was doing all herbal for my lyme. I am 48 and have very advanced chronic lyme, especial neuro. My daughter was also diagnosed at 9 and we fear she was born with it. My doctor in Minneapolis retired and when I finally found a good new doctor I was surprised that she put me on essential oils! Happy to add some more natural defense, and happy to be able to cut back on all the many, many herbals I was on. I now do a mixture of both herbs and oils, Buehner protocol and several oil blends she specifically designed for my unique lyme. I think this is important to think about….we cant all take the same thing because we are all infected differently, we all have different immune systems, and we all have different sensitivities to foods, herbs, oils, environment etc. So please guys, dont just do what someone else is doing, find a good doctor who supports natural care for Lyme. That doctor should be having you fill out a lengthy symptoms list and then customizing a plan specifically for unique YOU. By the way, my doctor insisted that Doterra was the only essential oil company to buy from. Since researching them and buying from them for six months now, I know why. And no, she did not sell the oils or push me to someone who does. She directed me to go to their website and join. From there I was assigned a wellness advocate “director” that immediately came to my home and literally made the blends out of her own oils so I could start immediately rather than wait for my oils to arrive. You join not to make someone rich, you join to become a member with discounted prices…like Sam’s Club. Dont let the business plans behind Doterra scare you. It is what it is, but the main point is that they are the company that many doctors are recommending now days. Someone said earlier that these oils are very serious, very potent and need to be used in the right way…YES. This is why having joined a company that offers a line of experienced dealers and users to be on your team is so important. I had no idea where to start and they have helped me so much. Now I teach others! I am a Wholistic Life Coach… I teach people how to live out their best life by examining the Mind, Body and Spirit separately in order to make the “Whole” of them well by default. These oils have earned an entire section that will be soon placed on my website because I believe they are that crucial to wellness. Sure, I make money when people sign up under me but that is a bonus….we all know fighting Lyme is very expensive and not covered by insurance for most of us. The commissions I make help me pay for my oils. AND, people who sign up under me get my help as long as those above me when it comes to using essential oils…SO crucial! I cannot imagine what would happen if YL or Doterra just let anyone buy without signing up under someone who can offer them expertise and support! YIKES.
Hey! I’m in Mpls area and looking for a good naturopathic practitioner especially for help with Lyme and co infections.
YL has the only oils that have worked for us and I was so skeptical as a medical professional I wouldn’t try them until I was desperate and had already tried all the cheap brands. I will never be without them again! Our entire family now uses them for many issues and they are keeping my chronic lyme under control. When I can afford the entire protocol I will do it with joy!
I have read several comments saying most essential oils are created equal. Not so. Check into your EO company. Ask them if they are 3rd party tested. Ask them if they are tested from plant to bottle. Ask them if they stand behind their oil. Also ask if they are 100 oil in the bottle, or is there a filler?
If any of these questions are negative, contact me. I would be happy to help you. Please be careful what you are using, and do not get EO that cost very little, you will be wasting your time or even worst getting something that may harm you.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153696244534314 Information about testing.
I would be happy to give you some suggestions. look me up on facebook. What is basically need is to strengthen your immune and lymphatic system.
Hi, Sue,
As it is now a year and a half later, I am very curious how your EO treatment has progressed. I hope you are feeling much improved.
I have likely had Lyme for 25 years or so, just Dxed this past April. I am taking a multifaceted approach, including EO’s, Buhner herbs, Zhang (for garlic), as well as acupuncture and Qi Gong. I started EO’s under the guidance of my acupuncturist who is also trained in using them. I would never consider messing about with them on my own without proper training or the guidance of someone who had such training. EO’s are powerful, being the essence of the plant, and as such are to be respected.
That said, I am having some good results. I am just emerging from a healing crisis, and I am hoping that the fact that it happened means I made a lot more progress than I thought. While not pleasant, certainly, where these little buggies are concerned, I stand by the wisdom of Shrek, “Better out than in!”
Peace and healing to you.
I’ve been using YL Thieves for 2 years now- first b/cig had black mold in my basement and was having an allergic reaction to it, my friend immediately ordered me a diffuser and got me a bottle of Thieves. I diffused it while I was at work 2 days later. When I came home that evening- no reaction. I was thinking coincidence at first, but, no…. It wasn’t. Also after I started using it on my daughters feet and my feet each night we have cut down the number of times we get sick per year dramatically— I didn’t even notice it at first, because who misses being sick, right??! Then it dawned on me- last year we both only picked up 1 virus that was going around. That was it. This year so far ( and its Dec. 16 already) we have not had any major sicknesses that we have had to miss work or school because of or been bed ridden by. I went from using it in my feet to putting 2 drops on my younger and swishing it around my mouth and gums with my younger. I do it in the morning when I get up and before I go to bed because it kills bacteria. It took me awhile to understand that one oil just doesn’t do one thing— each one helps several different areas all at once. That’s why I like the “blends” you get a mix of them in one bottle. I could go on and on, but I know some people get bored or overwhelmed by it all. I just know that they come from plants and plants repair themselves. Makes such sense.
I used my rewards points to get a raindrop kit for my daughter (15) who had terrible back issues that threw off every alignment in her body- plus she had major stress and post traumatic issues. She was skeptical and thought I was crazy at first, but now she ASKS for them. The kit came with a DVD and a fold out guide. I use the DVD and just follow along with it.
It’s great to read so many positive results with the oils. I love my EO’s and have been using them for health & wellbeing for about 10 years. There’s so much good advice here, but like anything, always do your research and go with what feels right and what works for you. For further EO info visit http://www.youngliving.org/michelecleaver
Hi Gwyn,
I know this is an older post, but I’m interested in using EOs to help my family heal from chronic Lyme and other issues. My 11 yo son in particular is very ill with seizures, fainting, tachycardia, panic, headaches, etc. I would love to talk to you about a piecing together a protocol for him. I have used YLEOs before and have many of them now. Thank you so much. I hope you can help us. Blessings, Melanie
Look up Advanced Cell Training on fb. No pills no herbs no oils. Just a bunch of ways to mask the symptoms. Advanced cell training u heal at the cellular level. No need to waste money on products that dont do crap.
Many of the cheaper oils on the market are cut with synthetic fillers or are totally synthetic. Good quality essential oils do tend to be pricier. For non mlm options I like the Floracopeia and Living Libations brands.
1. It’s not. I have seen many, including myself, see great changes in their lives. 2. He doesn’t suggest that. He states he doesn’t believe in products you can only get through 1 person. In fact, anyone can order products from them without the need of someone. The fact that they have been distilling essential oils for over 20 years is why they are hyped so much. YOU can get essential oils from anywhere however like most things in world, they are not created equal. I have personally been to the farms and have seen the plants and witnessed the distillation. That kinda beats listening to someone talk trash. The greatest form of ignorance is dismissing something you know nothing about.
I started taking Carolyn Dean’s liquid magnesium a few months ago. I had not heard that ingesting magnesium promotes Lyme spirochete growth! Do you have a source to document this? I just found out I have Lyme and want to try EO’s but doc wants me to do Byron White tinctures.
Young Living is BS, a MLM scam.
It’s a shame so many “distributors” of this shady business are shamelessly promoting sales on this sites to squeeze money from fellow sufferers.
First off let me say that I am a big believer in the use of essential oils as a healing method for all manner of ills but, I do take exception to the promotion of multi level marketing companies. They also raise my BS detector. I find it detestable that YL continues to promote their oils as “therapeutic grade”. There is no such thing as therapeutic grade essential oils. It is a made up industry term. Go here for an explanation: http://www.planttherapy.com/blog/2014/01/14/can-essential-oils-be-ingested/. I personally buy my oils from that company. Robert Tisserand who wrote probably the definitive book on essential oil safety does testing of their essential oils. I’m sure there are other companies that sell quality essential oils, I’m just leery of MLM “scams”.
I just found this site while researching Lyme. I’m a new Lymie an keep hearing about Buhner. He sounds awesome. I clicked on EO’s because I use them all the time. I also would love a link on taking magnesium. Never heard that. Please share it with us. I digress. I have been using EO’s for almost 20 years. I do happen to love YLEO. I don’t sell them. I have been using Thieves, Frankincense and Oregano. I put 2 drops each in a jar mixed with almond carrier oil. I run on my arms (they ache from Lyme), spine, knees, elbows, ankles, hands and fingers. I have absolutely no herxing and I am super sensitive. I also use Thieves whenever I fly and never get sick anymore. I used to have a sinus infection within a week after flying. I used several oils for brain on my mom. I got a call that she had a stoke and probably wouldn’t make it 24 hours. She was in the ICU and unconscious. I got in bed with her, rubbed her head, feet and hugged her all day. She was sitting up and awake the next day -and talking. We were told if she did wakeup she wouldn’t walk or talk again. Believe in oils.
Those who seek to sell oils here, this is exactly what Stephan is talking about. Sharing oils for the sake of sharing them and helping people get well is awesome. His critique is sadly spot on for many who want to sell to sell.Serve the people, love them and if they ask for oils, that is the order of things. Offering someone to buy before you love them is what is out of line.
I do not sell oils. Having spent and given away more than I have ever made in oils I have freeness of speech here.I use them and share them.
Yes, the oils are a way people earn a living but they also provide coaching and massive loving support way beyond the few dollars they make.Many sell herbs and supplements to get people well from Lyme and make money, it is no different truly.
I healed my Lyme with oils, ingesting them. Yes I had herx, that is the only way. Yes, it feels like you are sicker and need a hospital. Yes, it roots out long standing infections as they are powerful!
Hi Bette,
I am interested in how you eradicated your Lyme; the various oils/blends that you used, how you ingested them, the number of drops used etc. I have had what I suspect is Lyme since 1998. I was diagnosed back then with Fibromyalgia and fought against it for many years using nutritional, dietary and other modalities, including YLEO’s. It was a slow process, but eventually I made good progress, but still have lingering signs and occasional flair-ups. Thankfully I am pain free these days unless the barometer changes dramatically. Regretfully, here in (rural)Australia, the medico’s generally do not acknowledge the presence of Lyme or co-infections so there is little help and certainly, no financial assistance and little medical help or compassion.
I realise everyone is different and that what suits one will not necessarily work as effectively for another, but it would be great to see your personal approach, if you don’t mind sharing that with those of us who are about to set out on this healing journey. If other protocols were used such as rife or farinfrared, please mention those too.
Finally how did you deal with the Herx effect or did you just take extra fluids, Vit C and ‘tough it out’?
Sorry for all the questions … I just want to do this the right way, the simplest way (if there is one) and the most cost-effective way from the start.
Wishing you continued health, blessings and thanks for your input.
Hi Bette
I used GX assist (enteric coated caps) of doTerra for my colon in february 2017 for 12 days but now my colon hurts. Just after taking them I had kidney problems. That’s better now but I have little infections all over. So I think besides my Lyme, other infections are resistant now. If you open a capsule it is really burning so I can imagine that it makes my intestines raw. What is your experience in essential oils and bowels, Lyme,… Thank you in advance. Evy Keysers
Hi, I’m going to use both essentials oils and Buhner herb method. Will have to listen to my body and hopefully mixing isn’t too bad. Some people have said that is is not OK to mix these methods, but I can see here that many do that.