There has been much buzz in the lyme forums in the past about the article on samento and banderol….I know your views on samento, do you feel the same way about banderol?
One of the difficulties with treating lyme is that everyone is looking for a quick answer to the disease. For most people that is antibiotics. If antibiotics don’t work people must go deeper and try a great many things to get well. And there are a number of good protocols out there, mine among them. However none of the protocols work for everyone. All protocols need to be adjusted for the individuals taking them. By micro adjusting them, most people, nearly all, can be helped. However there is still the desire for a one step cureall and the lyme community gets really excited EVERY time a new thing comes along. And, for some people, the new thing does work. I have answered a query about banderol for a previous questioner, here is that answer (slightly rewritten):
The study [that people are relying on] is ONLY an in vitro study. I discuss the nature of in vitro work on lyme spirochetes in my book; they are virtually useless. Literally thousands of compounds can kill the spirochetes in vitro. The problem is that test tube spirochetes are NOT the same as the ones expressed into the body through a tick bite. There are a number of research papers that go into this in depth. This early misunderstanding is part of what led to the trouble in treating lyme. I do think cat’s claw is highly useful in treating lyme. As to banderol, the extract made from the bark of the otaba tree, there is virtually NOTHING on that plant in the literature. It most likely does have antibacterial action, most South American species of plants do, but there is just too little on it to make any definitive statements about it. As to Richard Horowitz’s protocol: I have spoken with him and looked over his treatment plans and he uses a very wide variety of things to treat lyme, NOT just these two herbs. Banderol probably does have some efficacy in practice but I can’t in any way say that it is a specific for lyme. I am very uncomfortable with the lack of data on the plant, even in ethnobotanical sources.
Thanks for having this letter, I had just looked up Lyme once again as I think I have some new bites,to add to the already having Lyme in my system..and found the articles about Banderol and Samento and was all excited,but I think I will wait for a bit more info on Banderol since it is always used in combination with other things and its specific results have not been tested alone, nor invivo as you mention.
Stephen,
I am mostly plagued with neurological symptoms, 3 bands positive from IGenex. I have not had any co-infection tests, so I only know about the lyme. I am starting the core protocol now, so my question is this: Since I am dealing with all neuro symptoms (Brain fog, lethargy, severe anxiety, derealization/depersonalization, horrible visual processing, severe floaters), is there a pecking order of items that I should add to this core protocol? I really need a dumbed down pecking order of what to try and how long to try them for.
I had the achy joints in wrists and ankles, brain fog, itchiness at both the tick bite sites. The red bulls eye, on one of the 2 bite sites. I had short term relief with antibiotics. I had a bit longer relief with a Lyme treatment product from the health store. I used 3 bottles, but the symptoms kept coming back, within a week of finishing treatment.
I was recommended to get off sugar, (easier said than done.) But with the help of HCG drops, I stayed off sugar for about 3 months, and took Samento drops during this time. Also much prayer by myself and others. This was about 2 years ago, and I remain symptom free. One side effect, my arthritic joints shrank, and I lost my wedding band, as my knuckle had shrunk 2 ring sizes.
The problem with Lyme is if you have had it for a period of time, it will mask itself as normal “round bodies”. The two tests that are paid for by the incredibly inept Obama Care will only catch those with early infections, before the Bp goes into “hiding”.
Obama care does NOT pay for the other two tests that conclusively test for the disease. One of them being a Dark field microscopic test. So MANY people are coming up with false negatives and spending years looking for other problems, arthritis, FMS and other autoimmune conditions when they have had Lyme all along.
Recent studies have shown since Obama care Lyme has reached epidemic levels in the USA. With a estimated 300-500,000 people misdiagnosed and suffering every day.
I am about to try Samento and banderol myself. I am not asking for ANY obama care doctor advise. These doctors are nothing more than legal drug pushers and MANY have no experience with Lyme. They try to put me on lifetime anti-inflammatories, not knowing what is wrong. Luckily I found an alternative pain doctor that turned me on to all these problems properly diagnosing Lyme in our incredibly incompetent medical system we now know as OBAMA CARE… Repeal it president Trump! First day.