Marcons staph bacteria with lyme

Dear Stephen,
I’m working with a naturopath that has started treating me for marcons staph bacteria, using Terminalia chebula in a sinus spray. Her results with patients is very promising, she says. She explains that the infection present in the sinuses prevents the body from using essential fats and sugars that allow the body to fight off the lyme. (I’ve used a very simplistic explaination, hers was much more scientific.) My naturopath as been working with a lyme specialist MD in Palo Alto (Dr. Patel) for the past 12 years. Dr. Patel considers this a breakthrough in lyme treatment. I was wondering what your opinion is on marcons. Thank you very much!


Stephen’s response:
Marcons is not new, I have been writing about multiple-resistant staph over 15 years. As to biofilms: ALL bacteria that can, do make biofilms. It is just one of the methods they use to protect  themselves and they have been doing it for, well, many millions of years. Plants and all living organisms have developed methods to respond to biofilms, just as they have developed methods to deal with antibiotic resistance mechanisms such as efflux pumps. The human body is filled with bacterial organisms and they all interact with each other. Coinfection with bartonella (for example) does make treatment of lyme more difficult but it does not make it impossible. You don’t have to eliminate the bartonella before you can treat the lyme. Nor do you have to eliminate the staph before you can treat the lyme. The claims I have read about Marcons are more extreme than I can comfortably endorse. Nearly everyone has resistant staph in their nose – that is part of the function of the nose (and various organs in the throat and the sinuses, and . . . ), that is, to intercept infectious bacteria. If it really bothers you, 30 days of a cryptolepis/aida actua/alchornea tincture regimen (from will clear it up quite nicely. Or its use as a nasal spray. Terminalia is a good herb and it is active against staph, so use it as well if you want to.
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posted on March 10, 2012 in bacterial infections, Co-Infections

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  • Prana

    June 16, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    Is the tincture you write about: cryptolepis/aida actua/alchornea to be taken orally? Or, is this intranasally?

    Thank you,

    • Sharon

      June 29, 2013 at 2:14 pm

      I did not see an answer on whether this tincture should be taken orally or threw a spray?

  • Scott

    December 1, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    This may be too simple of a question, but how do you know if you have Marcons? I have had my eyes burn uncontrollably for over a year now, but my C4A test was normal. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

    • Janice

      December 10, 2013 at 10:07 am

      Scott, my doc tested me for Marcons by taking a swab from deep in my sinuses and sending it off to Diagnostic Laboratory Medicine in Bedford, MA.

    • Prana

      March 25, 2014 at 6:49 pm

      Through a nasal swab. They stick a very long Q-tip like thing about 2 to 4 inches up your nose and swirl it around for a few seconds. It’s sent to the lab and analyzed for the multiple antibiotic resistant staph and they also do a culture and sensitivity with it. I just had another one done and it came back a large amount. I’m pretty convinced that getting these under control is a key to regaining your health.

  • Angie

    February 9, 2015 at 10:46 am

    So, you can use the Terminalia Chebula powder in a nasal spray? Can you make it yourself? Like with a sinus flush or netty pot?

  • Deanna

    September 25, 2015 at 7:38 am

    I have had a sore in my nose for over 20 years. It’s an ulcer like sore that bleed profusely. It has now created a hole in my septum. I have been to many doctors but no one takes me serious. It hurts like crazy and see pain management but that just puts a “bandaid” on the issue. Can you help? I’ve done sinus rinses, saline spray, antibiotics, ointment on the sore.


  • Emily

    November 23, 2015 at 11:10 am

    Hi Stephen,
    I have several of your books. I am purchasing the cryptolepis/aida actua/alchornea tincture regimen from Woodland Essense, but I don’t know what dose to give my 13 year old son weighing about 110 lb. Also it would be great to put it in a nasal spay. I wonder if you could tell me how to do this. I appreciate your reply.
    Best regards,

  • Barbara

    May 25, 2016 at 8:27 am

    Did anyone ever get an answer about how to make the nasal tincture to treat MARCoNS?

  • TAMMY burdick

    June 26, 2016 at 9:36 am





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